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2025 Chapter Meeting Schedule – Expandable sections

2025 Gun Raffle Tickets for Sale!

The St. Louis Chapter MSPS fundraiser for 2025

Henry All-Weather .45-70 Raffle!

Tickets will be available for sale from Chapter Directors for $20 each, and 200 total tickets available to keep the chances of winning better. This year we will be giving away a Henry All-Weather .45-70, made in the USA. Brand new in the box. This .45-70 also features a 4-round capacity with our “best of both worlds” removable tube magazine and side loading gate configuration, sling swivel studs, a ventilated rubber recoil pad, and an internal transfer bar safety system. The Henry All-Weather .45-70 Picatinny Rail Side Gate, a scout rifle.
 
Tickets will be available in person at our upcoming chapter meetings, with the drawing after all tickets are sold! Funds will be used for our scholarship program.
 
Thank you Mark Frankenberg with BFA Engineering for this generous donation.
Golf Outing w/ IPLSA Southwest Chapter 2025

Past Meetings

End of Summer Membership Meeting - August 27th, 2025

Some Riparian Boundary Surveys and Litigation I’ve Seen– Dr. Richard L. Elgin, PS, PE

August 27th, 2025  at the James W. Rennick Riverfront Park, Washington, MO.

This meeting has been approved for 1.5 PDU’s by APEPLSPLA and is on the list of Pre-Approved Activities.

6:00 – 6:30 PM – St. Louis Chapter Business Meeting, Scholarship Fundraiser Tickets, while enjoying BBQ along the Missouri River by BFA, Inc.

6:30-7:30 PM – Presentation by Dr. Dick Elgin who will be discussing riparian boundaries and litigation examples. Outline here.

2026 Scholarship Fundraiser – Henry All-Weather Raffle .45-70 – Tickets will be available for sale from Chapter Directors for $20 each, and 200 total tickets available to keep the chances of winning better. This year we will be giving away a Henry All-Weather .45-70, made in the USA. Brand new in the box. Scroll down on our scholarship page to see more about this.
2025 Surveyor’s Cup Golf Tournament! REGISTRATION IS OPEN – SEPT. 26TH DEADLINE!!

Summer Membership Meeting - June 18th, 2025

Our June 18th Membership meeting will be held at B. Halls 2 – The Event Space of the Family Grill.

3752 Monticello Plaza Drive, O’Fallon, MO 63304.

 

We will be in the private room and attendees may order dinner and drinks from the regular menu.

Time: 6:00 PM – 7:30 PM

The presenter will be Matt Winkler & John Schaeffer, on behalf of Arch City Title, St. Louis Title, Benchmark Title and Security Title. The PDF outline for the evening’s presentation is HERE. The will be discussing title research related to surveys and the title research industry looking ahead, it is sure to be an informative and interesting evening. This will also be a great opportunity for surveyors from multiple counties, in MO & IL to meet the title company representatives.

Summer Membership Meeting - June 18th, 2025

Our June 18th Membership meeting will be held at B. Halls 2 – The Event Space of the Family Grill.

3752 Monticello Plaza Drive, O’Fallon, MO 63304.

 

We will be in the private room and attendees may order dinner and drinks from the regular menu.

Time: 6:00 PM – 7:30 PM

The presenter will be Matt Winkler & John Schaeffer, on behalf of Arch City Title, St. Louis Title, Benchmark Title and Security Title. The PDF outline for the evening’s presentation is HERE. The will be discussing title research related to surveys and the title research industry looking ahead, it is sure to be an informative and interesting evening. This will also be a great opportunity for surveyors from multiple counties, in MO & IL to meet the title company representatives.

Spring Membership Meeting - March 26th 2025

Outline for MSPSSTL – 2025 Spring Membership Meeting

Time: 6:00 PM – 7:30 PM

Location: Office of TWM, Inc. 3701 S Lindbergh Blvd Suite 100, St. Louis, MO 63127

6:00 – 6:30 PM – Business Meeting, Non-Profit organization status, Scholarship Foundation, website updates, Ongoing St. Louis City/County limits original stones located and updated database and calculations by companies on website.

6:30 – 7:00 PM – New Survey Technician program, certified by the DOL and administrated by the StL Construction Forum. St. Louis Community College’s involvement, and a description of survey courses offered, career advancement and tuition paid for by St. Louis County Workforce Development.

Presentation to membership and open discussion with Tom McGovern from St. Louis County Community College, Tom Finan & Diana Wilhold from StL Construction Forum will present.

7:00 – 7:30 PM – AI in Surveying Presentation. Daily routines with AI, short-cutting work-flows. Walk-through Microsoft Office apps with AI assistance. Thoughtful prompting for precise outputs. Surveyor’s perspectives on AI questioning, input and liability during day-to-day use.

Demonstration showcasing useful AI platforms that can create detailed presentations and deliverables for projects.

Demonstration showcasing detailed prompting to create a Python app that allows coordinate data entry and calculates results in a user created input/output form or file.

 

Winter Membership Meeting / Surveyor's Roundtable - Dec. 11th, 2024

The Winter Membership Meeting / Holiday Survey Party will be held on December 11th at the offices of Clayton Engineering – 2268 Welsch Industrial Ct., St. Louis, MO 63146.

6-8pm. We have requested 1.5 PDUs for attendance of this meeting.

There will be a Hot Dog & Bratwurst Bar catered by Steve’s Hot Dogs

We will be presenting the family of Richard J. Barr with his Final Point, commissioned by NSPS.

We will be announcing our 2024-2025 St. Louis Chapter MSPS Scholarship recipient!

And the main discussion of the evening will be the surviving stones from the 1876 St. Louis City Charter, according to a survey by Julius Pitzman & Re-Survey by Thomas Featherson followed by a surveyor’s roundtable.

The full meeting outline can be found here.

Click Here for the 1.5 PDU Certificate

Click HERE to download the Map of the location of the City Limits, according to a survey by Julius Pitzman and a Re-Survey by Thomas Featherson in its entirety.

 

Golf Outing w/ IPLSA Southwest Chapter 2024
Summer/Fall Membership Meeting - August 21st, 2024

James W. Rennick Riverfront Park, Washington, MO.

6:30 – 7 PM – St. Louis Chapter Business Meeting, Scholarship Fundraiser Tickets and presentation about a new survey credit program by Midwest Geospatial Academy, while enjoying BBQ along the Missouri River by BFA, Inc.

7-8 PM – Presentation by Judge Ike Lamke of a court case that resulted in a decision about the location of the North-South section line between Section 4 and Section 5, Township 43 N., Range 2 W of the 5th PM.

Click here for Meeting Outline

Click here for all of the Case Files & Judge Ike Lamke Introduction

Click here for the Scholarship Raffle Info. Page – $20 tickets for (1st prize) Henry 30/30 or (2nd prize) Robert E. Lee’s Map of the Harbor of St. Louis

2024 Surveyors Cup Golf Tournament

Click here for Board Approved 1.5 PDU Certificate

 

Summer Membership Meeting - July 17th, 2024

The Summer Membership Meeting will be a presentation by County Planning and GIS Officials from our region to discuss their offices and procedures.

6:00 pm to 7:30 pm at 201 N. 2nd Street, St. Charles, MO 63301

Click Here for Agenda

Click Here for Board Approved 1.5 PDU Certificate

 

Spring Membership Meeting - March 27th 2024

Seiler Instruments – 3433 Tree Court Industrial Blvd, St. Louis, MO 63122

6:30pm- 8pm

The Spring Membership Meeting will include a presentation about the St. Louis Chapter 2024 Scholarships available for SIUE, State Tech & Optional other programs with presentations about that. Surveyors in Training and Associate members are strongly encouraged to attend!

The main presentation will discussion AI implementation in the Surveying Profession: Rapidly evolving software integrations, benefits and downsides, Surveyor’s responsibilities and awareness and preparedness of the unknown.

MSPS-STL March 2024 Meeting Program

Copilot ChatGPT4 DALL-E 3 Presentaion

 

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2 days ago
StL Surveyor

October 26, 1803.
Into The "Wilderness".
Photo: Kentucky Gazette, 1803.

The expedition leaves the Falls of the Ohio bound for Fort Massac near the mouth of the Ohio. CLARK'S brother, JONATHAN, joins them for a short distance. Fellow traveler THOMAS RODNEY says there is “nothing but wilderness on both sides of the river.”

LOUISVILLE, October 29
Kentucky Gazette
Capt. CLARK and Mr. LEWIS left this place on Wednesday last, on the expedition to the Westward. We have not been enabled to ascertain what length this rout will extend, as when it was first set on foot by the President, the Louisiana country was not ceded to the United States, and it is likely it will be considerably extended—they are to receive further instructions at Kahokia. It is, however, certain that they will ascend the main branch of the Mississippi, as far as possible: and it is probable they will then direct their course to the Missouri, and ascend it. They have the iron frame of a boat, intended to be covered with skins, which can, by screws, be formed into one or four, as may best suit their purposes. About 60 men will compose the party."

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October 26, 1803.
Into The Wilderness.
Photo:  Kentucky Gazette, 1803.

The expedition leaves the Falls of the Ohio bound for Fort Massac near the mouth of the Ohio. CLARKS brother, JONATHAN, joins them for a short distance. Fellow traveler THOMAS RODNEY says there is “nothing but wilderness on both sides of the river.”

LOUISVILLE, October 29
Kentucky Gazette
Capt. CLARK and Mr. LEWIS left this place on Wednesday last, on the expedition to the Westward. We have not been enabled to ascertain what length this rout will extend, as when it was first set on foot by the President, the Louisiana country was not ceded to the United States, and it is likely it will be considerably extended—they are to receive further instructions at Kahokia. It is, however, certain that they will ascend the main branch of the Mississippi, as far as possible: and it is probable they will then direct their course to the Missouri, and ascend it. They have the iron frame of a boat, intended to be covered with skins, which can, by screws, be formed into one or four, as may best suit their purposes. About 60 men will compose the party.

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5 days ago
StL Surveyor

October 23rd, 1803.
Young Men From Kentucky.
Photo: Young Recruit From Kentucky by Michael Haynes. © Michael Haynes, www.mhaynesart.com. Used with permission.
This soldier wears a tan coatee and blue overalls as described in Outfitting the Expedition. He carries a model 1792 Springfield (see Muskets and Rifles).

BIDDLE'S NINE YOUNG MEN
NICHOLAS BIDDLE in his paraphrase of the expedition journals, coined a phrase still applied to CLARK's Kentucky recruits:

"The party consisted of nine young men from Kentucky, fourteen soldiers of the United States army who volunteered their services, two French watermen—an interpreter and hunter—and a black servant belonging to captain Clarke—All these, except the last were enlisted to serve as privates during the expedition, and three sergeants appointed from amongst them by the captains. In addition to these were engaged a corporal and six soldiers, and nine watermen to accompany the expedition as far as the Mandan nation, in order to assist in carrying the stores, or repel1ing an attack which was most to be apprehended between Wood river and that tribe.
—NICHOLAS BIDDLE"

Today, many count YORK as the tenth young man from Kentucky. He was, however, too old to be considered young.

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October 23rd, 1803.
Young Men From Kentucky.
Photo:  Young Recruit From Kentucky by Michael Haynes. © Michael Haynes, https://www.mhaynesart.com. Used with permission.
This soldier wears a tan coatee and blue overalls as described in Outfitting the Expedition. He carries a model 1792 Springfield (see Muskets and Rifles).

BIDDLES NINE YOUNG MEN
NICHOLAS BIDDLE in his paraphrase of the expedition journals, coined a phrase still applied to CLARKs Kentucky recruits:

The party consisted of nine young men from Kentucky, fourteen soldiers of the United States army who volunteered their services, two French watermen—an interpreter and hunter—and a black servant belonging to captain Clarke—All these, except the last were enlisted to serve as privates during the expedition, and three sergeants appointed from amongst them by the captains. In addition to these were engaged a corporal and six soldiers, and nine watermen to accompany the expedition as far as the Mandan nation, in order to assist in carrying the stores, or repel1ing an attack which was most to be apprehended between Wood river and that tribe.
—NICHOLAS BIDDLE

Today, many count YORK as the tenth young man from Kentucky. He was, however, too old to be considered young.

 #MissouriSocietyOfProfessionalSurveyors #SurveyorsHistoricalSociety #LifeOfASurveyor #landsurveyorsunited #surveyorsunited
6 days ago
StL Surveyor

October 22nd, 1803.
Louisville, Kentucky.
Photo: Louisville today.

At the Falls of the Ohio, CLARK and LEWIS are recruiting soldiers and preparing to leave for St. Louis. Other travelers give their impressions of the Louisville and Clarksville area.

In Washington City, PRESIDENT JEFFERSON asks the House of Representatives to ratify the Louisiana Purchase treaty.

"I had thought Cincinnati one of the most beautiful towns I had seen in America, but Louisville, which is almost as large, equals it in beauty, and in the opinion of many excels it.
—Fortescue Cuming (1810)"

EPSY'S SICKLY TOWN
Two years after LEWIS and CLARK left Louisville, JOSIAH EPSY regarded Louisville as yet another “sickly” Ohio River settlement.

"[O]n account of prevalence of the fever and ague during the autumnal months, it [Louisville] has not risen to that wealth and population which might have been expected . . . . [I]t is to be presumed that its great natural advantages will finally get the better of the prejudices now existing against it on account of its being so sickly, and that it will yet at no very distant day become a great and flourishing town.
—JOSIAH EPSY (1805)."

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October 22nd, 1803.
Louisville, Kentucky.
Photo:  Louisville today.

At the Falls of the Ohio, CLARK and LEWIS are recruiting soldiers and preparing to leave for St. Louis. Other travelers give their impressions of the Louisville and Clarksville area.

In Washington City, PRESIDENT JEFFERSON asks the House of Representatives to ratify the Louisiana Purchase treaty.

I had thought Cincinnati one of the most beautiful towns I had seen in America, but Louisville, which is almost as large, equals it in beauty, and in the opinion of many excels it.
—Fortescue Cuming (1810)

EPSYS SICKLY TOWN
Two years after LEWIS and CLARK left Louisville, JOSIAH EPSY regarded Louisville as yet another “sickly” Ohio River settlement.

[O]n account of prevalence of the fever and ague during the autumnal months, it [Louisville] has not risen to that wealth and population which might have been expected . . . . [I]t is to be presumed that its great natural advantages will finally get the better of the prejudices now existing against it on account of its being so sickly, and that it will yet at no very distant day become a great and flourishing town.
—JOSIAH EPSY (1805).

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1 week ago
StL Surveyor

October 21st, 1803.
Louisville Viewscape.
Photo: George Rogers Clark Cabing by Steve Ludeman. © 2023 by Steve Ludeman, www.steveludemanfineart.com. Used by permission.

The cabin of GEORGE ROGERS CLARK, CLARK'S older brother and hero of the Revolutionary War, was built in the area that would become Clarksville, Indiana. LEWIS and CLARK spent two weeks in the area where YORK and Seven Young Men from Kentucky joined the expedition.

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October 21st, 1803.
Louisville Viewscape.
Photo:  George Rogers Clark Cabing by Steve Ludeman.  © 2023 by Steve Ludeman, www.steveludemanfineart.com. Used by permission.

The cabin of GEORGE ROGERS CLARK, CLARKS older brother and hero of the Revolutionary War, was built in the area that would become Clarksville, Indiana.  LEWIS and CLARK spent two weeks in the area where YORK and Seven Young Men from Kentucky joined the expedition.

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1 week ago
StL Surveyor

IPLSA offers scholarships and awards for students, surveyors and other individuals in the surveying profession. Below is a listing and brief purpose of each scholarship. To review the full requirements, please visit the links below. Scholarship submissions are evaluated by a committee of Professional Land Surveyors. Scholarships are presented at the IPLSA Annual Conference, held in February of each year. All checks are sent directly to the college or university for application to student accounts.

Find out more here: www.iplsa.org/scholarships.html
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IPLSA offers scholarships and awards for students, surveyors and other individuals in the surveying profession. Below is a listing and brief purpose of each scholarship. To review the full requirements, please visit the links below. Scholarship submissions are evaluated by a committee of Professional Land Surveyors. Scholarships are presented at the IPLSA Annual Conference, held in February of each year. All checks are sent directly to the college or university for application to student accounts.

Find out more here: https://www.iplsa.org/scholarships.html
2 weeks ago
StL Surveyor

October 17th, 1803.
Wine With Col. Rodney.
Photo: The Clark's Home in Jefferson County, Kentucky. Colorized from an original image courtesy the Filson Historical Society, Louisville.
The Clark home known as “Mulberry Hill,” built under the supervision of Jonathan and George, William’s older brothers in 1783-84, by slaves who included Old York, the father of William Clark’s personal slave, who was also called York. The rest of the Clark family, including 14-year-old William, arrived here in March 1785. In 1799, William inherited the house from his father, and in 1803 sold it to Jonathan. It remained in the Clark family until its collapse in the early 1900s. This photo was taken about 1890.

VISITING COLONEL RODNEY
In the evening CAPTAIN LEWIS and his companion CAPTAIN CLARK, son of GENERAL CLARK, called at our boat to see us and took a glass of wine with us and bid us adieu. They do not go off till next week, yet as they have a better boat and will be strong handed they expect to overtake us tho we shall set off tomorrow.
—THOMAS RODNEY (17 October 1803)

In fact, LEWIS and CLARK would not overtake RODNEY'S batteaux. RODNEY turned down the Mississippi on 9 November, and LEWIS and CLARK arrived at Fort Massac—a few miles upstream from the Mississippi—on 11 November 1803.

OLD GENERAL CLARK
RODNEY'S assumption that GENERAL GEORGE ROGERS CLARK was the father—rather than the older brother—of WILLIAM (see above), can be understood in the context of this 1805 description of the older brother:

GENERAL CLARK has now become frail and rather helpless, but there, are the remains of great dignity and manliness in his countenance, person and deportment, and I was struck on seeing him with (perhaps) a fancied likeness to the great and immortal WASHINGTON.
—JOSIAH EPSY (1805)

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October 17th, 1803.
Wine With Col. Rodney.
Photo:   The Clarks Home in Jefferson County, Kentucky.  Colorized from an original image courtesy the Filson Historical Society, Louisville.
The Clark home known as “Mulberry Hill,” built under the supervision of Jonathan and George, William’s older brothers in 1783-84, by slaves who included Old York, the father of William Clark’s personal slave, who was also called York. The rest of the Clark family, including 14-year-old William, arrived here in March 1785. In 1799, William inherited the house from his father, and in 1803 sold it to Jonathan. It remained in the Clark family until its collapse in the early 1900s. This photo was taken about 1890.

VISITING COLONEL RODNEY
In the evening CAPTAIN LEWIS and his companion CAPTAIN CLARK, son of GENERAL CLARK, called at our boat to see us and took a glass of wine with us and bid us adieu. They do not go off till next week, yet as they have a better boat and will be strong handed they expect to overtake us tho we shall set off tomorrow.
—THOMAS RODNEY (17 October 1803)

In fact, LEWIS and CLARK would not overtake RODNEYS batteaux. RODNEY turned down the Mississippi on 9 November, and LEWIS and CLARK arrived at Fort Massac—a few miles upstream from the Mississippi—on 11 November 1803.

OLD GENERAL CLARK
RODNEYS assumption that GENERAL GEORGE ROGERS CLARK was the father—rather than the older brother—of WILLIAM (see above), can be understood in the context of this 1805 description of the older brother:

GENERAL CLARK has now become frail and rather helpless, but there, are the remains of great dignity and manliness in his countenance, person and deportment, and I was struck on seeing him with (perhaps) a fancied likeness to the great and immortal WASHINGTON.
—JOSIAH EPSY (1805)

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